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    • #279375
      cperry

      When merging a vertical drain line with a horizontial drain line: Can I use a sanitary tee laid on its back or do I need to use a combination fitting (“combo tee”)?
      This is in wisconsin, in a residential single fam. house. I tried to look it up in the plubing code book, but ohh man, thats some long reading! PS – I can not find a combo tee for sale at any hardware store.

    • #300674
      Retired plbg1

      You cannot use a Tee on its back are any horizontal position, You need a combo. are y& 45. It might not be in code but a Plumber should know that, are you a Plumber. Go to a Plumbing supplyhouse and buy the fittings. They dont have them in stores because they can make more money by selling y& 45.



      Art retired plbg

    • #300675
      DUNBAR

      I agree. No tee shall be laid on its back.

      You can lay a tee on its side, but the degree of angle shall be no less than 45 degree of direction.

      And from that tee, no turn of direction more than a 45 degree turn. That would be considered flat-venting if venting is its dedicated purpose.

      » This message has been edited by DUNBAR on 18 March 2004

    • #300676
      Retired plbg1

      He is talking about using a tee at base of stack what i get out of it, you can use tee on back for vent but not for waste.



      Art retired plbg

    • #300677
      wetthumbs

      This is what I’m talking about

    • #300678
      John Aldrich1

      Wetthumbs, Great Sketch!!!

      Septic Tank Yank

    • #300679
      DUNBAR

      What is going into the top/front of the tee? The front of that tee would have to be a drain for another fixture, otherwise, that would be a flat vent.

      I am probably throwing confusion into this now.



      “Your best interest is secured by making the right decisions the first time.”

      » This message has been edited by DUNBAR on 18 March 2004

    • #300680
      Retired plbg1

      You cant use a tee on a stack like that you need a combo. are a y & 45. What else do you want to hear.



      Art retired plbg

    • #300681
      wetthumbs

      Dunbar I updated the image in my previous post to make things more clear. The “front” of the tee would be a cleanout. The AAV is also noted. What to you think of this plan?

    • #300682
      DUNBAR

      A cleanout is fine, just follow what Retired Plbg said by using a wye and a street 45 to make your turn of direction towards the main line.

      A tee is too short of a sweep with the top of tee not being used for anything other than a cleanout.

      With the combination T-Wye, the flow of fluids and waste will not build up at the cleanout as much as a tee would.

      The suggestion of the T-WYE is for smooth operation of travel of waste.



      “Your best interest is secured by making the right decisions the first time.”

      » This message has been edited by DUNBAR on 19 March 2004

    • #300683
      Retired plbg1

      How did you get the drawing on the post let me know.



      Art retired plbg

    • #300684
      turdchaser

      for godsake man don’t teach the retired one!

    • #300685
      wetthumbs

      Its not real easy to do. It took me quite a while to learn how. To much info for me to explain here. Use your windows help menus, it might help.

    • #300686
      PLUMBILL

      Just got back from vacation and saw your posting.

      That part of the code is Comm.82.39 (8) found on page 28 of the Jan. 2004 edition of the Wisconsin Plumbing Code.

      All the other plumbers are correct and you can fined the needed combo at any plumbing shop, supply house, or big box store, many hardware stores don’t stock them you have to buy a “Y” and “45” to make one.

      » This message has been edited by PLUMBILL on 25 March 2004

    • #300687
      nicktheplumber

      The sketch is pretty clear and shows the fitting as being part of the wet drain and not just a part of the dry vent system. Thus, you cannot use a sanitary or vent tee. You must use a combo type fitting. Period, end of story.
      NtP

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