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Recently, we had our main sewage drain plug up. This has happened once before approximately 5 years ago. We ended up both times renting an electric snake and boring through the main sewage line by removing the basement toilet; at the time it seemed to be the most accessible point of entry. Anyways, the snake did the job, approximately 100′ of coiled snake with a spear on one end went through the sewage opening. Is there any type of acid solution on the market which can be used for preventative measures to keep the main line clear; or; will we have to continue snaking the main line on a as need basis when it plugs again. Not sure what to do; Can you give us
any suggestions; Not to keen on digging up the yard or replacing the main sewer line! -
Wow Daniel, Your lucky I saw this post to give you REAL EXPERT advice if you have any questions please E mail me. Read Below
Daniel McMurdo wrote on 20 March 2001 at 11:50 PM:
Recently, we had our main sewage drain plug up. This has happened once before approximately 5 years ago. We ended up both times renting an electric snake and boring through the main sewage line by removing the basement toilet; <<Answer:
Daniel so far so good a lot of codes do consider a toilet as an access to the drain line in lieu of a typical clean outat the time it seemed to be the most accessible point of entry. Anyways, the snake did the job, approximately 100′ of coiled snake with a spear on one end went through the sewage opening.<
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Ok here lies a major problem. A lot of so called “professional drain cleaners” leave the job site right after the water starts flowing.
A “spear head” is used to start liquid and waste flowing BUT it is only considererd a “STARTING TOOL”What you should have done is after you ran the snake 100 feet retract it and then go with a larger head while running water to flush away debris THEN retract this snake place a full size diameter head and run a sink with hot water and soap ( this cleans the snake for the next guy and makes rodding easier)
If you did it exactly like I do you could do the folowing
1- You can easily charge $325 for a main sewer stoppage up to 4″ dia and up to 100 ft long This job should take under 45 minutes NEVER LESS as your just giving away your talent
THEN consider using a water jetter like a Ridgid KHJ 1,350 Or a Ridgid KJ Gas operated one
KJ 2,200 with the Honda engine. WITH the 3 pulling jets to get max puling and scouring action.For an extra of course BUT it does give longivity to plumbing systems
FORGET CHEMICALS your throwing your money away.
Try the above and wait TEN YEARS and see wht happens
Is there any type of acid solution on the market which can be used for preventative measures to keep the main line clear; or; will we have to continue snaking the main line on a as need basis when it plugs again. Not sure what to do; Can you give us
any suggestions; Not to keen on digging up the yard or replacing the main sewer line!Here check out these articles written by a sewer and drain EXPERT in the field of pneumatic, electric and hydro jetting services.
http://www.masterplumbers.com/plumbing/plumbviews/1999/chemicals.html
http://www.masterplumbers.com/plumbing/plumbviews/1999/draincleaning.html
http://www.masterplumbers.com/plumbing/plumbviews/1999/jetters.html[Edited by SylvanLMP on 21 March 2001]
[Edited by John Aldrich on 21 March 2001]
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A good drain cleaner will try to figure out what’s causing the problem before suggesting expensive treatments like jetting.By using a retracting tool you can try to determine if you have a root problem which is the cause of most main line clogs in older homes.Using a jetter in this case will do nothing except add to your bill.
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Originally posted by Wallingford Plm+Htg:
A good drain cleaner will try to figure out what’s causing the problem before suggesting expensive treatments like jetting.By using a retracting tool you can try to determine if you have a root problem which is the cause of most main line clogs in older homes.Using a jetter in this case will do nothing except add to your bill.
Wrong again.
EDUCATION time for you again HUH?
You see a true professional would water jet the lines to scrub the internal piping to a like new condition giving FULL flow THEN video inspect this piping to get a TRUE picture of possible flaws in either piping failures or dips or back pitched piping.
Once a TRUE plumbing professional looks into this piping system then WE use the locator to pin point the exact spot where the problem is NOT doing a hit and miss of where the snake may have found a problem.
Could you imagine &&&&&&& as a doctor doing surgery without at least looking at a picture?
Running a snake will REMOVE roots and other foreign HARD obstructions BUT does nothing for soft stoppages .
THAT is why a jetter is great for exposing cracks and other piping defects for the camera’s eye.
MOST stoppages are NOT from roots but from wax and grease build up from laundry detergent and from soil entering from storm piping in combined systems.
[Edited by John Aldrich on 26 March 2001]
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Most stoppages in older homes are from roots.
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