Too late for law suit?

[MasterPlumbersKeymaster]

I just had the mainline from the city sytem into my house main go, and the plumbers advised it is a
ploybutalene line. But they said that I’m too late to benefit from the law suit. Too bad, if true, since my total
bill is going to exceed $2,500.

FYI, I purcheased the house 2 years ago, but it was built in 1988.

Thanks,

Craig Hanson
Yorktown, VA

[Harold KestenholzParticipant]

http://www.polybutylene.com/poly.html
http://www.terrylove.com/pipe.htm

[fourth yearParticipant]

To be covered it would have had to have built in 1992 or later. It wouldn’t have helped you, but this is why I tell my customers that when they find out they have PB and it is still covered, have it replaced before the time runs out. And tell their neighbors also.

[SylvanLMPParticipant]

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In reply to message posted by fourth year:
To be covered it would have had to have built in 1992 or later. It wouldn’t have helped you, but this is why I tell my customers that when they find out they have PB and it is still covered, have it replaced before the time runs out. And tell their neighbors also.

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Ah the Joys of using STATE OF THE ART “plastic” Just like FRAUD suggested huh?

Well some plastic did last just long enough to be out of warrantee JUST like Frauds works I would assume

[fourth yearParticipant]

I am not sure what you are suggesting, but when one of my customers called for replacement after they had a leak the company’s adjuster told her that they would like to have three leaks before they did a replacement. He also told her that he was sure she would be able have three leaks before the next day. The customers who have that garbage usually did not have any say about its installation, and the companies who made it should not be able to weasle out by saying they waited too long before they had a leak.

[SylvanLMPParticipant]

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In reply to message posted by fourth year:
I am not sure what you are suggesting, but when one of my customers called for replacement after they had a leak the company’s adjuster told her that they would like to have three leaks before they did a replacement. He also told her that he was sure she would be able have three leaks before the next day. The customers who have that garbage usually did not have any say about its installation, and the companies who made it should not be able to weasle out by saying they waited too long before they had a leak.

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Why SHOULD the “company” be responsible?

Look at all the misfits and stumblebums installing Quality plastic products BUT the moron installer screws up and looks to blame anyone BUT himself. This is what is called FRAUD PLUMBING

Any piping system will fail with an idiot installer.

Shell and other companies got a bad rap from the non professional installers dabbling in heating and plumbing.

ALL I know NOT ONE of my plumbing heating Or fire suppression systems EVER FAILED but then again my crews can read and understand simple directions.

I posted several questions to the heating bums on here and I am yet to get the right answer from the bums who say P&H.

The plumbers who installed these systems should be held PERSONALLY LIABLE not their insurance companies Or the manufactures BUT the installing contractor MAKE THEN take money out of their pockets for any system failure.

I think ALL plumbing and heating should be personally guaranteed for 25 years MIN.

Any defects the installer comes back and fixes it for free.

When I did roofing (BUR) we put a full 30 year guarantee on it why cant plumbers and heating guys do the same thing?

I feel if a plumber/heating guy uses a product of questionable quality Or installed improperly then the contractor should lose not only his business but his home NO INSURANCE should cover a MISFIT installation..

[fourth yearParticipant]

You sir, are an idiot. The installers made a stupid choice by using plastic PB tubing, but they followed the manufacturer’s instructions. The pipe itself breaks and that has nothing to do with installation. Shell, et.al., originally claimed that it was an installation problem and mobile homes did not have any failures because their installer knew what they were doing. But then when mobile home started failing they lost even that defense. I can’t believe you use Polybutylene for fire suppression systems, otherwise why would you cite that as a defense for the integrity of a PB system. And most copper installations have lasted more than 20 years so that also has nothing to do with the PB failing. If the companies had a real defense for the charge of supplying a bad material they would have fought it instead of agreeing to put up $935 million dollars to replace it. As far as the installers are concerned, I suppose most of them did think they were installing a 30 to 50 year system. And the PEX users today, also think that. We will see in 30 to 50 years if they are correct. The PB installers learned their lesson the hard way. The first ones were forced out of business by the liability claims before the settlement saved the rest of them.

[SylvanLMPParticipant]

Well now I see I hit a nerve with the TERM “STUMBLEBUM”

“The installers made a stupid choice by using plastic PB tubing”,

You are as Qualified as your name implies.

Your saying the installers ARE STUPID BUT your a genius HUH?

I see by your non listed qualifications that YOUR the one who is a danger to anyone who allows you into their home.

Bums like you like to fault products or say stupid choice BUT your a 4th year so you make no choices do you ONLY second guess.

You sir are the Idiot I was talking about a NON knowing moron who has no clue to the proper use of materials plus you lack the skills to install ANY SYSTEM properly.

You sure you cant find another field to dabble in as you sure are never going to be a plumber by any stretch of your pea brain imagination

You really are a LOSER by your own words.

Oh well I guess the wrold needs failures like you to make the real Journeymen appriciated.

TSK TSK TSK A stumblebum like you there is a saying for.

A poor mechanic blames his tools.

In your case you can try to blame everyone and everything BUT the reality is YOUR the failure not the product.

Bums like you have no clue to the proper choice of materials for the proper job.

shame, shame they dont have a Billy Butt crack list for you are the king of the losers in the trade of plumbing/heating and even drain cleaning

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