14 Dec 2000 at 10:54 pm #274146MasterPlumbersKeymaster
I have Polybutylene pipes in a house I’m looking to buy. How much approximately would it cost to re-pipe a small townhouse with either the white pipe or copper? I hear that poly stuff is awful!
15 Dec 2000 at 1:53 am #289237
Your in luck as the home I just repiped was a one family home that had old yellow brass piping which we replaced with all above ground copper type “L” and below ground was K copper.
OK ILL figure your home is the same size as this one which has 9 bathrooms and 2 kitchens plus a wet bar and a Jacuzzi
Not including the outside hose connections Or the fire suppression sprinkler piping You can figure just over $850,000 BUT it can be done under capital improvement so you can avoid the tax.
Figure each bathroom was piped with 3 lines hot Cold and return circulation
FIXTURES and faucets not included in this bargain price.
Now since you did not give me any
information as to HOW MANY BATHROOMS kitchens Or WET BARS or hot water tanks/ Boilers or cooling towers Or the GPM demand Or the actual size of your pump in horse power Or pipe diameter I can only assume your actual developed length is under 10,000 ft
Wall breaking and restoration BY OTHERS
15 Dec 2000 at 2:17 am #289238
sylvan: You’re about as funny as a head on collision!! Even though this person did not give specific information to give a ballpark figure for a waterline redo, why do you have to be such a pompous ass with you reply? People come to sites like this for some help, not to be humiliated and belittled. Apparently, you’re a regular columnist to this site as well,submitting articles here, so in a way,you represent this site and your conduct is a direct reflection to this site. I’m not impressed, and after reading the postings of other regulars, apparently I’m not alone!Do you treat your own customers as poorly as you treat others on this site?? You seem to have more than your share of certifications and qualifications for this industry. However you seem to be missing a few important ones such as “tact” and a Personality. Use your own site to bore others with your self importance, not here.
15 Dec 2000 at 2:46 pm #289239
If the house is less than 12 years old, you can submit a claim to the Plastic Claims Group for repiping it. You may have to manufacture some leaks to comply with the parameters.
16 Dec 2000 at 12:16 am #289240
How much to fix my car? I won’t tell you if it’s an old Yugo or a Bentley, nor what the symptoms are. That’s basically what Seth asked, and Sylvan’s reply, although flippant, is not totally out of line.
I had a post-doc working for me in a lab, and asked me how much a certain reagent cost. He never told me how much he needed, what grade, what concentration, etc. I just handed him the catalogue and told him to enjoy himself. Non-specific questions can only be responded to with non-specific answers, or flippancy.
The Friendly Chemist
16 Dec 2000 at 12:19 am #289241
fourth year; You suggest “manufacturing leaks”. Certainly you are not promoting committing an act of fraud! Ethics is an important part of any business. I guess that’s why you don’t own a business.
16 Dec 2000 at 1:57 am #289242
QUOTE]Originally posted by Youraputz:< ANSWER is this YOUR name Or your Families HERITAGE?
sylvan: You’re about as funny as a head on collision!!<
Only if you are in front on the van using your head instead of your name PUTZ
“Even though this person did not give specific information to give a ballpark “
Hey Putzman How much copper would this gentleman need? What size diameter? What is the labor rate in his area? PUTZ your more ignorant then ANYONE I have ever seen on this list congratulation YOUR the DUMBEST yet to come out from under a rock
YOU sir are really a AH in disguise NO WONDER your ASHAMED to use your FAMILY name as they would be embarrassed BY you PUTZ fits you perfectly
figure for a waterline redo,
What about RESTORATION you IDIOT or is that FREE?
Are the walls wood, plaster or marble or Wire lath? HEY YOU give a “BALL PARK NUMBER WELL HUH?? tell me an answer LOL DUH JO
Plumbing is NOT A GUESSING GAME .Even if I knew the sized piping in Question HOW do you know for a fact it was Origionally piped right?
Are you the kind of IDIOT who is a replacement specialist putting back Exactly what you take out with total disregard to proper pipe sizing as per flow recommended flow charts.
Statement By Mr. Ashamed by his GIVEN NAME
why do you have to be such a pompous ass with you reply?
Answer: Because its FUN getting GUYS like YOU with no life to READ my comments, And its HUMOR SARCASTIC YES but STILL humor to the smart readers who CAN READ BETWEEN THE LINES.
You only READ comments and NEVER contribute any thing BUT take all your life like LEACHES of society.
WHY don’t YOU post something about ANY thing worth while?
Come on Putz try writing ok?
Statement>> People come to sites like this for some help, not to be humiliated and belittled.
ANSWER> Apparently, Your the one who is belittled as YOUR not too Bright it would appear ASKING for a LEFT FIELD number sight unseen. No wonder your ashamed to give your name A COWARD huh?
Reminds me of a guy I knew in Nam who threw away his dog tags and never told us his name in case he “got it” he didn’t want his family to know. He went as far as acid burning off his finger prints.
Statement>you’re a regular columnist to this site as well,submitting articles here, so in a way,you represent this site and your conduct is a direct reflection to this site. I’m not impressed,<
Answer THEN PUTZ why don’t you WRITE an ARTICLE instead of LEACHING off my idea’s? Besides you Being a PUTZ are not to be impressed OK Schmuck?
You have NOT IMPRESSED me with your skill at showing your Gray matter OK Ball park mentality
Statement from Mr. PUTZ >and after reading the postings of other regulars, apparently I’m not alone!
Answer Oh YES you are alone in the “Ball park ” all by yourself at night with your PUTZ in your hand I would assume by your lack of professional mentality.
Statement. Do you treat your own customers as poorly as you treat others on this site??
Answer >Yes, if they are a PUTZ like you are kind sir.
ONLY a Certifiable IDIOT or YOU would give a number sight unseen on a REPIPE
Statement> You seem to have more than your share of certifications and qualifications for this industry.
Answer. Hey Dude/PUTZ it DOESN’T MEAN A THING as I am STILL learning my profession EVERY DAY.
The Diplomas and the licenses and all the degrees don’t mean a DAMN THING if your not able to pass some of the education along EVEN to JERKS like you.
STATEMENT>However you seem to be missing a few important ones such as “tact” and a Personality.
Answer. What kind of “TACT” should I show someone who is not only ashamed of his name BUT is a COWARD hiding using his first name “PUTZ” which in this case is so TRUE to the meaning
Statement. Use your own site to bore others with your self importance, not here.
Answer> I have over 2 million READERS per year on my international sites and It has nothing to do with “self importance” It may have to do with YOUR total lack of respect for yourself and your shame of letting folks know WHO or what YOU are.
When I meet the President of the United States TWICE ( asked to be on the presidents commission of housing BUT the position DIDNT PAY enough) and meeting presidents of Several other countries I work for I am the same person as I am on here, BUT then again I am not ASHAMED of my Family NAME and these folks are slightly smarter THEN you can ever hope to be.
I CANNOT STAND STUPIDITY like YOURS saying give a number ANY NUMBER.
I get on the average 300 E mails a week asking plumbing/ heating/ drain cleaning and fire suppression questions and NO ONE BUT you EVER asked for a BALL PARK number in dollars and Cents for a sight unseen Job with NO INFORMATION given.
OK PUTZ Have a GREAT week end and PLEASE keep the fan mail coming as it pays my bills. Keep READING MY postings and let me know how to keep YOU coming back
YOUR the BEST one YET
PLEASE CALL AGAIN you ALL have a good time HEAR
16 Dec 2000 at 2:50 am #289243
Seth, if you plan on living in your townhouse for a long time, don’t think about getting the re-pipe done cheap, think about getting it right. I would definately go with copper.
Also, DO NOT listen to 4th year and intentially damage the polybutylene. Not just is it dumb to destroy your own house, but it is also tantamount to FRAUD. People go to jail for that, and its VERY irresponsible for anyone to suggest perpetrating it.
Do the right thing, and let your conscience be your guide. After all, you have to look yourself in the mirror in the morning.
The happy chemist
16 Dec 2000 at 3:03 am #289244
As usual, another long winded reply from Sylvan LMP. I’m surprised it took you this long to reply to my posting.You must have been busy appearing as an “expert witness” somewhere, inflating your billings, or busy embellishing your credentials to some unknowing customer.anyways, my original remarks still stand. Your reply just confirms what a boring, longwinded AH you are. Thanks for confirming my original suspicions.
16 Dec 2000 at 4:35 am #289245
Originally posted by Youraputz:
As usual, another long winded reply from Sylvan LMP. I’m surprised it took you this long to reply to my posting.You must have been busy appearing as an “expert witness” somewhere, inflating your billings<< NO sir YOUR the BALL PARK moron giving a BALL PARK number from left Field. My Numbers ARE not inflated it is published HOURLY rate or any part there of $225 PER HR min of 4 HOURS plus I am SURE a moron like You and Jack can fully understand this pricing
or busy embellishing your credentials < I dont have to GUY as I said it doesnt mean a thing if you dont use it to your full capability
to some unknowing customer.anyways, my original remarks still stand. Your reply just confirms what a boring, longwinded AH you are.< BUT if it is BORNING then Why do you come back YOUR part of the fan club guy admit it YOUR the loser who loves to watch the net BAD BOY instoll my wissdom on DUMMIES like Jack and losers like you Thanks for confirming my original suspicions.
ONCE a putz THEN always a PUTZ
PLEASE continue to REAd and comment as the Counter of my HITS are growing STEADILY as YOU made me a STAR in your drab boring life PLEASE RESPOND asap as I want to BREAK the 250 MILLION mark BEFORE 2001 Thank you again Putz abd SEND my best to your 2 BATZAM Friends.
AH the problems of BEING on the top looking down at you little people.
NOW please post SOMETHIMNG AS I know your now hooked onto my fan club. Have a great day my friend
And keep sending more of your friends on here to LERN fro US experts PLEASE look forward to my NEXT article PUTZ in the SEWER
16 Dec 2000 at 5:28 am #289246
Sylvan YOU are RIGHT on the money He is a PUTZ.
Man you are hysterical and really know your business. Thank you so much for the wisdom and entertainment.John LMP
17 Dec 2000 at 1:27 am #289247
Thank you John I really appreciate your kind words.
The PUTZ will come back they always do like a moth to the flame.
Guys like him and Jackass Jack and even ditch digger john are losers and they have to try to get attention that is why these losers follow me trying to get my charisma to rub off on them.
We must pity them as they have no life and hopefully one of these mutts will respond as it keeps my ratings VERY HIGH and helps them feel good about themselves seeing their name under mine
John always a pleasure hearing form you as always.
17 Dec 2000 at 3:01 pm #289248
Seth, Please excuse the self centered blowhard remarks from others on this subject.
It is, however impossible to give you even a “ballpark” estimate on your repipe with the info provided.
I suggest you ask some of the neighbors if they have had this done. They may be able to refer a plumber that has done a similar job. Or, get several estimates from reputable plumbers and choose one. I would not neccesarily go with the lowest bidder. Ask what kind of “help” they use. Also, know who will repair any walls that have to be cut into. WIll plumber sub-contract or be done by “others”? Above all, choose someone you feel comfortable with. They may be in your home for several days.
John and Sylvan, GET A ROOM! GET A LIFE! Maybe even try to help the people who ask for it? WOW, What a concept!
17 Dec 2000 at 6:18 pm #289249
Seth, Don’t waste you time at this site. No one here wants to help those that come here for help. Try plb.com
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