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    • #273687
      Avatar photoMasterPlumbers
      Keymaster

        I have two questions — My son is having a home built in North Dallas.
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        Checking the construction progress the other day he noticed that the copper pipe stub ups for the kitchen sink were comming up through the cement pad in the den about four feet away from where they were supposed to be.
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        What are the proper corrective measures that must be taken to correct this condition? (Note – This mistake was not the plumbing contracters fault, it was the builders mistake.)
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        The second question is a more serious problem. The sewar pipe for the bathroom toilet (that also comes up through the concrete slab) is four feet from where it should be and is located outside the bathroom area.
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        How can this mistake (again, by the builder) be properly resolved?
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        The interior framing is almost complete so any redesign of the floor plan to accomodate these mistakes by the builder is out of the question.
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        Any information pertaining to how these problems can be properly resolved will be appreciated.
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        Barry

      • #288312
        Avatar photoSylvanLMP
        Participant

          Other then opening the slab and re routing this piping LOTS OF LUCK

        • #288313
          Avatar photoJerry Peck
          Participant

            First, these may have been the plumber’s mistakes in measuring where the pipe were supposed to be, they could also be the builder’s error by making changes and not relaying those changes to the plumber.

            The only solution is to cut out and remove some of the slab and dig out the soil to expose where the pipes are, and where the pipes are supposed to be, so the pipes can be rerouted. After the plumbing work is redone, the soil fill needs to be re-compacted (not just thrown into the openings and stepped on), then the compacted soil needs to be re-pretreated for termites as the original pretreatment was disturbed and dug out, the a moisture barrier needs to be installed over the exposed soil and tucked up under the sides of the slab around the openings, then holes fore dowels need to be drilled into the edge of the surrounding slab, next welded wire mesh (WWM) needs to be laid in the openings, the steel rebar dowels needs to be epoxy set into the drilled holes, then finally the concrete for the slab can be poured into the openings.

            I know of no other solution. This occurs all to often and the usual repair amounts to throwing dirt and rubble / debris back into the holes and then pouring full of concrete. As you can from the above paragraph, there is more to making a proper repair than just this.

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