I dunno Sylvan. I keep getting this picture of the homeowners who are so happy to come into our plumbing supply and get someone to help them buy a set of stem washers for a faucet. They tell us the Master Plumber screamed at them for wanting to fix their own drippy faucet. All they wanted to do was to return it to the exact way it was done by the Master Plumber who installed it. They never thought if attaching a hose to the sewer line until they heard it here.