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I discovered a few years ago that the (black) ABS pipe used when my house was remodeled in 1985 is defective. Only the 2 size — the larger pipe seems to be okay. Actually, we discovered one defective piece within a year after installation, which the plumber replaced. Then a few years ago I discovered that all the 2 is bad. It breaks right at the junction with a fitting, even though there is no stress on it. For example, a vertical run, about 2 feet long, which drains from the shower has broken at both ends. I can see that there is no stress, because the pipe has not pulled apart. It simply seeps water through the cracks.Any further information would be greatly appreciated. Im not looking forward to having to pay to have it all replaced.Bob Plantz : : Hi, : : First I wish to say what a neat site this is. I just : : discovered it and I wanted to say how useful I find it.! : : Now, I remember hearing and seeing reports about : : a year ago regarding certain brands of black abs pipe : : that was made in a defective manner so as to break : : easily after installation. I believe one of the companies : : names I saw relating to this was Phoenix. : : Well, my Brother in Law is a general contractor and : : he suddenly finds himself with a lawsuit from a : : homeowner who lives in a home my In-Law built 10 : : years ago. The claim is that the abs pipe used in : : the construction is of the defective variety. : : Although there are no problems now the homeowner : : is bringing suit now just in case. : : I was hoping that someone here might also have heard : : of this abs pipe and if some of the plumbing pros here : : could give me(us) more info on the situation. : : My B-in-law used a plumbing contractor who still : : has a well established business to plumb the homes : : 10 years ago. That plumber recalls a problem with certain : : abs pipe but cannot offer any real information. : : Any help would be great!! : : And keep up the great source of info and resources : : that you have here. It is good for all; homeowners/ : : renters and plumbing pros! : : James : : [email protected]: James,: I have not heard of any problems with defective ABS pipe, : I will attempt to find out any info I can, let me know : if you find out anything. : We have had a lot of problems with defective polybutylene : pipe, blue underground, grey inside the home….: KG