Reply To: Joint Repair

NOT AT ALL BUT saying the water department is responsible is ludicrous.

In NY for example some localities do take full responsibility for the water meter and water supply piping from the city main.

NYC and the Local gas supplier DO NOT. For example if the building owner has a leaking water main they get a three day notice to get it repaired by a LMP or face a shut down of service. until a LMP pulls a permit for repair or replacement

If the gas piping BEFORE the meter leaks that ALSO is the building owners responsibility EVEN the meter bar piping is furnished and installed by the LMP.

Now you as a 4th year wanna be can fully appreciate why it is required for a Journeyman plumber to have documented proof of his working qualifications before he is allowed to take the NYC Exams. A person has to have a full 10 years in the trade before being allowed to take either the 5 hour written or 41/2 hour practical.

So before you give advice I would strongly suggest that instead of guessing you try to find out the local code as to who has responsibility.

In one area I held a license I was not even allowed to shut off the main valve in the street, because the city owned the main piping and valves up to and including the meter.

NYC Master plumbers are responsible for the installation of the water meters.

We also make the tapping to the city water mains and sewers.
In some areas the powers that be KNOW the so called “plumbers” are really not qualified and thus BIG BROTHER Government has to do the work rather then allowing a helper or a wanna be plumber damage the city property.

Not all Master plumbing licenses require the same back ground in knowledge and or training as seen by the postings on here.

The best part is everyday I am still learning as plumbing is a never ending learning experience especially hearing how country plumbers dabble in heating and drainage

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Most enlightened utilities maintain the pipe up to the meter, since that water is not billed to the customer. For that reason there would be no reason for the homeowner to pay to have the leak fixed if he was not being charged for the wasted water. Please advise as to any utility that requires the homeowner to maintain his own water service so I can verify your facts.<< SNIP

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CALL NYC Department of environmental control AND call Con Edison (Utility)is responsible for the gas piping BEFORE and AFTER the Meter GO ahead helper call them THEY are in the phone book

As a 4th YEAR and not really knowledgeable in plumbing OR Business it appears.

You would have read the numerous articles about UNFAIR utility competition.

You would also know as a master plumber we rightfully so accept all responsibility for proper piping applications WHY should the “city” do our work?

Helpers like your mind set would love the government to do all the work in the home after all isn’t the water in the piping city owned?

Hey how about the local gas companies do all the gas appliance installations as YOU sure don’t know what is a real plumbers job or.

I would strongly suggest that you may consider joining a professional organization like the NFPA or NBBI or ASSE or ASME or even the NAPHCC and take some classes regarding plumbing and code applications.

Do not expect governments to do the proper job in regard to plumbing.

That is why GOD CREATED PLUMBERS to protect the health of the world.

It would be very nice gesture if you tried to learn a little something about this profession that you treat like a trade

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Now, the sewer is different. There many if not most utilities give the burden of maintaining it to the homeowner all the way to the main. Again because in this case the homeowner could not function without an active sewer, so it is in his best interests to pay for the repair. And what makes you think I am a helper? My company has my name on the trucks, and I pay the bills.<LOTS of stumblebums pass simpleton plumbing tests as some tests only require a small fee to get licensed and just need a where the name goes.

Have a nice day and try to THINK like a mechanic