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I have a full bathroom in the finished basement below the sewer and water line. There is a shower, sink, and toilet. I want to ask a contractor to improve or get rid of the current sewage pump system so I can feel confortable that the bathroom can be used more frequently with no problems. In the past the system failed causing a overflow mess. Also, when it runs it is very loud and cause the lights to dim. Could this overflow be avoided by installing a sealed basin? As far as the lights diming running a seperate line to the breaker? all professionally done of course. Currently the bathroom gets little to no use because of these problem. I can’t afford a super expensive system but want to do what is necessary to make it usable and realiable. What are my options?
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Is good luck your way of saying just use the upstairs bathroom and leave the downstairs one alone?
Is a fix possible or just costly? Please point me in the right direction. I am even considering removing the bathroom all together and turning it into a closet.
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dmac,You don’t say what kind of a pump basin you have,but in any case it should be sealed.A high water alarm is a must .This will alert you when there’s a problem.If the pump basin were sealed then the shower base filling with sewage would also be a good clue that there’s a problem.As far as the wiring of the pump seperate line to the panel is always best.Unless you take measures to sound proof the pump,they all make some kind of noise.I have had very good luck with Zoeller pumps,but there are other good pumps as well.I would avoid getting one at a home center.
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Good luck was referring to the following
“I have a full bathroom in the finished basement below the sewer and water line. There is a shower, sink, and toilet. I want to ask a contractor to improve or get rid of the current sewage pump system so I can feel confortable that the bathroom can be used more frequently with no problems”
f you want a fool proof system FORGET IT.
What a legitimate plumbing contractor can offer you is redundancy and some peace of mind with high water alarms and other bells and whistles.
As long as sewerage ejectors empty into a pipe you always have to face the real possibility of a stoppage. Mechanical systems do need up keep and are prone to failure at one time or another.
In case of a power outage you may even lose your pumping capabilities UNLESS you have a heavy duty battery back up system.
Federal pumps makes a fantastic DUPLEX system with high water alarms etc. But they are not cheap BUT they do offer you peace of mind if one pump should stop working.
It is like a cars air bag it is nice knowing it is there BUT you pray you never need it.
With lead and lag capabilities you wont run one pump to death.
Having any drain pipe below a gravity system can and will cause problems from time to time.
If your basement is finished do not allow the use of good pumps to hinder your life style work with what you have.
A lot of the duplex and triplex systems I install in homes do come under “capitol improvement” as the bathrooms below grade do add value to the home.
The Triplex system I find insurance companies love especially if the 3rd pump is battery operated with an independent discharge line.
There are all kinds of options just contact Federal, Nosler, blue Angel, Steven’s, Grindex or other fine pump companies willing to send you all the information you want
Working with a qualified master plumber/ plumbing engineer Or a decent pump company you should have no problems in finding a competitively priced system for your needs and future needs
Feel free to E mail me if you have any design questions.
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Originally posted by SylvanLMP:
Good luck was referring to the following“I have a full bathroom in the finished basement below the sewer and water line. There is a shower, sink, and toilet. I want to ask a contractor to improve or get rid of the current sewage pump system so I can feel confortable that the bathroom can be used more frequently with no problems”
f you want a fool proof system FORGET IT.
What a legitimate plumbing contractor can offer you is redundancy and some peace of mind with high water alarms and other bells and whistles.
As long as sewerage ejectors empty into a pipe you always have to face the real possibility of a stoppage. Mechanical systems do need up keep and are prone to failure at one time or another.
In case of a power outage you may even lose your pumping capabilities UNLESS you have a heavy duty battery back up system.
Federal pumps makes a fantastic DUPLEX system with high water alarms etc. But they are not cheap BUT they do offer you peace of mind if one pump should stop working.
It is like a cars air bag it is nice knowing it is there BUT you pray you never need it.
With lead and lag capabilities you wont run one pump to death.
Having any drain pipe below a gravity system can and will cause problems from time to time.
If your basement is finished do not allow the use of good pumps to hinder your life style work with what you have.
A lot of the duplex and triplex systems I install in homes do come under “capitol improvement” as the bathrooms below grade do add value to the home.
The Triplex system I find insurance companies love especially if the 3rd pump is battery operated with an independent discharge line.
There are all kinds of options just contact Federal, Nosler, blue Angel, Steven’s, Grindex or other fine pump companies willing to send you all the information you want
Working with a qualified master plumber/ plumbing engineer Or a decent pump company you should have no problems in finding a competitively priced system for your needs and future needs
Feel free to E mail me if you have any design questions.
Thanks to both Wallingford and Sylvan I appreciate your expert opinions and now know how to pursue the problem.
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