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11 Mar 2000 at 4:28 am #272620MasterPlumbersKeymaster
If a house has grey tubing, is that
the material that you used to hear
about that was the defective stuff?
How can you tell if it is the
bad stuff? If it is, what then? -
15 Mar 2000 at 2:46 pm #286024Poly DoctorParticipant
Most likely if it is grey it is bad. You can go to http://www.pbpibes.com and see the different types of pipes.
If you determine that you have poly here is some information for you.
Comprehensive and FACTUAL Information Site for Polybutylene Information, Class Action Links and Contractor Opportunities. This site hides nothing and is here to HELP you – http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/polybutyleneplumbing
There are some sites that appear to be providing you with complete information about polybutylene. Some of these are commercial sites in the poly replacement business. They tell you what they want you to know. And some tell you different stories. Plumbing Express states that they do not use subcontractors, but they are advertising for subcontractors to do repipe work. I would not recommend a subcontractor in your home.
Some repipe companies do not even want you to have the class action phone numbers, even though they claim to be information sites with complete information. A better name would be Poly Info Limited for these sites. When you do see them posting a class action phone number some of these sites it is generally for someone that has already missed the deadline for filing. For example, you will see them post the phone numbers for the class actions when it is an exterior line that is older than 10 years old. If it is less than 10 years old or they are not sure, they will direct you to their site and try to sell you the job for the highest price possible.
If you do not qualify for the class action suits do NOT simply let a contractor tell you there are no alternatives. We can provide you with alternative solutions, as well as a list of top contractors to get estimates from. You certainly need more than one or two estimates and several referrals. We will also tell you the questions to ask your contractor to make sure they have crews that are qualified to do the work in your home. For example, make sure you ask any contractor if he has left a job and the house caught fire from hotspots they left in the walls. This is a very key question.
Also be sure to ask all companies for a few phone numbers of the references or testimonials they show you. Don’t let them select which ones if they are featured on a website. Just ask them for the names and phone numbers of the ones you want to call. You may find some surprises.
Here are some reliable websites with additional information :
Polybutylene Information HelpSite – 5 STAR SITE – http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/polybutyleneplumbing
Polybutylene Question and Answer Forum (NEW) – http://www.deja.com/~polybutyleneplumbing/
Master Plumbers Bulletin Board – 5 STAR SITE – http://www.masterplumbers.com/wwwboard_index.html
Terry Love Plumbing Bulleting Board – 5 STAR SITE – http://terrylove.com/wwwboard/
Dynamic Plumbing Information Forum – 5 STAR SITE – http://www.plbg.com/cgi-bin/forum.pl?&main&&view_by_order
Consumer Plumbing Recovery Center – 800-356-3496 – http://www.pbpipe.com
Spencer Class Facility – 800-490-6997 – http://www.spencerclass.com/
Poly site that references Class Action Lawsuit filed by the insurance industry against the poly resin manufacturers -www.businessinsurance.com/mktplace/ad0308.html
Site with Key Dates involved in the development and problems associated with polybutylene plumbing systems – http://cbc.ca/consumers/market/files/home/pipes/chronology.html
Site with confidential documents from Shell!!! – http://tv.cbc.ca/market/files/home/pipes/memo1.html
Canadian Homeowners – http://www.siskind.com/classpipe.html
Canadian Homeowners – http://www.poynerbaxter.com/
SPECIAL NOTE: If you would like referrals to reliable contractors in your area or you want to know more about your contractor, please e-mail . . . [email protected] or visit http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/polybutyleneplumbing
Poly Doctor
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