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Harold, as I said I had no expertise with cold climates, I prefer to live in a warm climate with a winter temp of 11 degrees Celcious as minimum. Average winter temp of 28 max, as I said only a short stint in the cold area, didn’t like the cold! and I still suffer on those cold mornings of 11 deg when I have to wear a light jumper, cause my knees get cold. You are a hardy lot you eskimos. But then I suppose you don’t need refrigeration.